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18 April 2009

1+2=3 .....3+3=3 . .??!!

photography by beanhugger

ive been trying to get god to design a plant for me but had become all yellowy n dying since I asked god to make it
ive prayed god to save it but nothing happened so I watered it & gave it some sunlight
now it seems to be doing somewhat better
so it got me thinking does god work through what he created
watering plants through the rain cycle & a fiery star billions of miles away giving it light
its all automatic

a complex image can be broken down into only 3 colors
whts so difficult in believing that those three colors existed without having a divine creator
& y r u so compelled to believe that purple is not the a mixture of red & blue but an entity on its own that god himself created out of purple light dust


M said...

Actually, violet can be a single frequency on the UV spectrum without needing to mix frequencies. The whole idea of breaking colours into 3 components was for ease of representation. Just the way that alphabet can be represented by ASCII or Morse.

The RGB color model is based on the Young–Helmholtz theory of trichromatic color vision. But there are many other encoding schemes such as CMYK.

Another thing is that a complex image cannot be just simply broken down into 3 colours, say if you were a bee for example. The 3 colours copmponents approximate what our human eyes perceive as colours. There are also wavelengths above the infrared and below the ultraviolet too. But we tend to just cut it down to the visible spectrum for our convenience, while we actually end up removing information (non-visible spectrum) which we humans are unable to see.

And in computing, we tend to take digital sampling which further approximates the given information. What we end up is an approximation of the picture, and that too according to the limits of our eyes.

mohamed said...

interestin stuff
but yea what i meant to say was a complex image can be made with 3 colors

im not going as far as saying only colors we see is the only color there is

de Irresistible said...

Just one simple thought, when it comes to God, how can we think and try to define and predict using tools that was given to us by God?

Just imagine if we found an element out of this world, perhaps in Mars! How would you define it and explain it to your friends? You can only say hard as iron and can be bend like rubber! This is called relating! We humans can't define things of which we have no experience! So when it comes to the creator, a world unlike ours, how are you to define it, explain the actions, not human in the history of this world was able to do that. We can only relate with the most imaginable way but it will never be a perfect definition! Never!

Can u imagine a world that has no beginning and no end! It hard to most, as everything we see in this world has an end and a beginning... but even here in this world we have a way to imagine it... Itz using Maths, just imagine infinity!

So as far as God is concerned, don't ever use your five senses, it is not enough... Use your intuition or the sixth sense... If this makes no sense, I can only pray, May God Guide Us all...

Yes, I believe in God, with infinite certainty!

mohamed said...

the thing is it is that difficult to imagine how the universe came to being so people r (trying)explaining it with this god person (a genocidal ego maniac) & i find it highly ridicules
id say god was made in our image a warlords desire to conquer the world & man as the center of the universe

god is not even an answer
its saying i dont know & never actually thinking about it

im not saying i know how it happened im not saying there absolutely isnt a conscious being behind it

im saying we dont know
so stop making up shit
(im just saying this in general - not u personally)

when u say infinite certainty
u have absolutely no idea what it is
but i dont think u r a brainless pawn
i think u r just in denial

if "god" told u to kill ur son u wouldn't think u r a prophet u would think u r going insane

oh maybe u would i dont know

de Irresistible said...

Your wrong with two assumptions!

1. Who is trying to imagine how the Universe came to existence? It is not me, it is you... It is not hard to imagine at all... It is only hard to explain in details in a way that is definitive...

2. God is not a person! Do you really define your Creator with personalities based on you? God is neither good or bad, but rather a much higher and purer in state...

Last a food for thought, if everything was as clear as black and white, would you be able to make the statement you just made?

Life is a paradox, and because most people can't live or rather get confused in a paradox, they try to define everything. In this process they also deny the existence of God! God's presence is everywhere...

[30:22] Among His proofs are the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colors. In these, there are signs for the knowledgeable.

[30:23] Among His proofs is your sleeping during the night or the day, and your working in pursuit of His provisions. In this, there are sufficient proofs for people who can hear.

[30:24] Among His proofs is that He shows you the lightning as a source of fear, as well as hope, then He sends down from the sky water to revive a land that has been dead. In these, there are sufficient proofs for people who understand.

[30:25] Among His proofs is that the heaven and the earth are standing at His disposal. Finally, when He calls you out of the earth, one call, you will immediately come out.

[30:26] To Him belongs everyone in the heavens and the earth; all are subservient to Him.

[30:27] And He is the One who initiates the creation, then repeats it; this is even easier for Him. To Him belongs the most sublime similitude, in the heavens and the earth, and He is the Almighty, Most Wise.

If you know what I know, I have no doubts that you will have infinite certainty in God... I have made my over 10 years of soul searching journey from being an atheist to a believer... I did asked all the questions you are asking now, I understand you... And all I can say is, keep searching...

FYI, if God asked me to kill my son, I will never hesitate!

[30:54] GOD is the One who created you weak, then granted you after the weakness strength, then substituted after the strength weakness and gray hair. He creates whatever He wills. He is the Omniscient, the Omnipotent.

[30:55] On the day when the Hour comes to pass, the guilty will swear that they lasted (in this world) only one hour. That is how wrong they were.

[30:56] Those who are blessed with knowledge and faith will say, "You have lasted, according to GOD's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. Now, this is the Day of Resurrection, but you failed to recognize it."

[30:57] Therefore, no apology, on that day, will benefit the transgressors, nor will they be excused.

[30:58] Thus, we have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples. Yet, no matter what kind of proof you present to the disbelievers, they say, "You are falsifiers."

[30:59] GOD thus seals the hearts of those who do not know.

[30:60] Therefore, you shall steadfastly persevere - for GOD's promise is the truth - and do not be intimidated by those who have not attained certainty.

So I leave you in peace,
May God Guide Us All...

mohamed said...

"Who is trying to imagine how the Universe came to existence? ITS NOT ME, it is you... It is not hard to imagine at all"
i think it speaks for itself

a jackass is a jackass even if he is in supernatural realm & doesnt have to answer to anyone

u were an atheist
y were u an atheist & what do u know now that u didn't before?

oh n im sorry i take that back u r not in denial

before u kill ur kid check if u r wearing a headset or if a speaker is nearby in case someones pullin a prank on u

de Irresistible said...

Dude, there is a big IF before I would go take such a decision!

Anyways, I guess I hurt your feelings... I just wanted to stated by views, nothing personal...

Take care, and I leave you in peace...

de Irresistible said...

correction: 'state my views'!

Mohamed said...

no no im just curious
sorry if i seem a little ticked off
(that part about killing ur kid was sick- in my opinion, i wouldnt do that even if i believed it was god)

but what is it that u found out
& i seriously want to know y u were an atheist

was it to do things forbidden by ur religion or was it that u seriously didnt believe in it?

send me an email if ur not comfortable writing stuff over here
im not trying to convert u or anything i just want to know y

de Irresistible said...

Well, curiosity is a lot of fun and subject of gossip when the details are hidden. ;) Anyway, for a free-thinker you have a lot of preconceived notions! Just stop being judgemental...

What? Me being afraid, you must be kidding... I would say what I believe in now, on a mountain top for the whole world to hear...

As for the killing, your point of view and mine is miss matched to the fact that I believe we all shall return to God, sooner or later...

As for the Atheist part, which you seems so interested in... It was nothing to do with following my temptations, I have long learned not to act based on my impulses. It was more like being a free-thinker I asked the questions of What if! A lot of What ifs! So theoretically, I could be said as a non-believer than, God knows better of my ignorance... However, after lot of researching, praying, and meditations, today I can say I believe in God with infinite certainty...

[24:35] GOD is the light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a concave mirror behind a lamp that is placed inside a glass container. The glass container is like a bright, pearl-like star. The fuel thereof is supplied from a blessed oil-producing tree, that is neither eastern, nor western. Its oil is almost self-radiating; needs no fire to ignite it. Light upon light. GOD guides to His light whoever wills (to be guided). GOD thus cites the parables for the people. GOD is fully aware of all things.

Peace Brother.

mohamed said...

gossip! no no nothing like that im just tryin to analyzing how a thought process can be changed so much

the term freethinker doesn't mean i should run wild with my imagination

& im happy to say this to u
u were never an atheist u were a theist
u believed in god u just didnt know which one thats y u prayed to whoever to show u the way

for me
other than the fact that we dont know how the universe came to be how it is, there is no evidence of god, so i live my life the best i can with the things i know

if a voice appeared into my head i wouldnt know if im going crazy or talkin to god, devil, jinn ....so thats y i wouldnt kill my kid
even if i had 100% faith he is going to go to heaven the bottom line is faith is not a fact & u cant make decisions for others based on it

thnx for the answers
quite an interesting chat

de Irresistible said...


Just some final words:

What we feel or rather emotions and in that case faith, can never be simplified to facts! What you feel can only be yours to be felt and conveyed! In that case a powerful religious symbols, used by all religions, often carries with it either comfort, judgment, healing, pain, or a desire for protection. Obviously, how these symbols enters into ones life and what effect it has on someone can only be said to be his or her reality.

So when one is enlighten with affirmation, denial is not an option and it has to be a doorway to experience a breakthrough. Though this comes with a bit of suffering, fear, and emotional loss! Which is always valid, incredible and deserves to be acknowledged and expressed to own-self in order to heal and transform the sacrifice. For we all have freedom of choice.

For God said in the Quran [17:36] You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

As for a freethinker, why, who and what limit the freethinker from running wild? This world is a pretty much a self governed move with responsibilities...

As for the evidence of God, know that true knowledge is two part, one understanding other wisdom. Understanding is what can be acquired using the five senses. But wisdom can only be sensed by your sixth sense. If one depend only on one, the knowledge can never be pure or perfected...

As for the voice, I take my God as my guidance... For God said in the Quran [2:186] When My servants ask you about Me, I am always near. I answer their prayers when they pray to Me. The people shall respond to Me and believe in Me, in order to be guided.

The funny thing about faith is, you can only acquire faith by applying faith!

Thus IF God does ask me I will kill, at the same time I KNOW God will NOT ask me to kill! This is the paradox that most don't know to function in! With this my life is a mystery to me and I treat it like one...

Said all this, today in this world there are lot of shit done in the name of religion or God, with this statement, I excuse myself from all those...

Peace brother